Episode 31: Turning the Lens (Seeing White, Part 1)

February 15, 2017

Events of the past few years have turned a challenging spotlight on White people, and Whiteness, in the United States. An introduction to our series exploring what it means to be White. By John Biewen, with special guest Chenjerai Kumanyika.

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  1. Bunny Goree Feb 15, 2017

    I am a 74 year old white woman and I am sick with sorrow. I too flinch at my whiteness. I was in Tuscaloosa Alabama when George Wallace stood in the door at the University of Alabama. I was there when my President, John F. Kennedy was assassinated. The white children cheered in their all white schools. I stood in the kitchen of the kindergarten where I worked with my only friend, Zolina. She and I clung to each other, crying and praying when it was still unclear whether he would survive or not. Oh, such horror and heartbreak. I am a white woman. She, a beautiful black woman. I can’t imagine her heart was breaking any more than mine. But I know that can’t be right. She went home to cross burnings, hopelessness and terrors I can’t even imagine. And then, all these years later, the miracle of President Obama! I was over joyed and amazed and he proved to be a very great President. Maybe even the best ever. Now, here we are. What does it mean. How can we change this? Can we change it? As I said, I am sick with sorrow. I know love is the answer. But how and when?

    • Johnny O. Jun 29, 2017

      The greatest President ever?! LOL!

      • Mark Lakeman Jul 17, 2017

        Yes, in so many ways the best ever. That’s not just because so many of the white presidents were lame. It was because of all that he really did accomplish. The areas where he deserves great criticism involved dynamics that deserve great scrutiny, involving the military industrial complex for instance, or vast corporate power.

  2. Shelly Musgrove May 3, 2017

    Thank you, thank you.
    I’m a white woman. My hero growing up was MLKjr.
    I’ve never understood the attitude about skin color.
    I have many moles on my skin. Growing up I was secretly proud of being both white and black.
    I live in CA in a very diverse area.
    I have tried explaining what I can to my f/b page.
    I’ve graduated in intercultural communication. I’m passionately curious about society.
    This is the perfect page for me to listen to and post.

  3. terry allen Jun 30, 2017

    Cant get the podcast on pocket casts, on android. is there any alternative other than itunes?

    • cdsduke Jun 30, 2017


      We send the podcast to Stitcher, IHeartRadio, and a couple of other places — there are so many that we frequently can’t catch them all! I’ll look into PocketCasts, but in the meantime if your podcast catcher of choice allows you to subscribe using an RSS feed, our RSS feed is: http://cdspodcast.libsyn.com/rss?

      You should be able to pop that into any podcast catcher.

      Thank you!

  4. This whole series has been outstanding, and inspiring. I come away each time with more thoughts and questions, and I wish I could encourage every person I know, of any color, and any culture to hear this. I also think it’s been educational in the sense each episode I hear, feeds from the last, and I don’t know if I had heard this episode, Turning the Lens, in the first couple of installments, that I would have got as much out of it because it hurts your head, the amount I have missed or dismissed being white, So much to think about. So much to ask. Thanks to John, Chenjerai and all participants and contributors for this remarkable piece of work.

  5. Miguel Jul 22, 2017

    Do you have links to the books of the authors you had on as guests for this 3-part series?

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